Thanks. I am shooting my handloads right now it is 124 but will go back to 115 once this batch runs out. Glocks are pretty simple really. My participation level isnt at the point where a dedicated backup gun makes sense so i dont have another gen 5 to compare, this might be the thing that gets me to try a sig though. I noticed that even after one dry-fire, the recoil spring assembly drops down a little bit when I take the slide off the frame. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. I'm wondering if it could be a defective recoil spring? JavaScript is disabled. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. Everything seemed fine at a field strip level just to oil. This allows me to use my loads (in 9mm, I'm usually around 3.4 - 3.7gr Titegroup under a 124gr JHP) and the gun runs flawlessly. You may not post anything that is remotely related to, or tangentially related to, sales, deals, trades of firearms, ammunition, or explosives Per Reddit's Policy r/Glocks, Press J to jump to the feed. If you need to smooth the face on the cruciform, I've found that a super fine file works best. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. I really couldn't say because even before I shot the gun I changed the connector. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. I think I had a similar problem once. The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. Your link has been automatically embedded. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. I'm not sure if you have the stock FPS spring or not. Not throwing shade on your loads just trying to eliminate a variable. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. Like polishing amounts? To check the recoil spring for wear I was told to remove the magazine and empty the gun. I wonder if it doesn't have enough pressure to hold itself in place. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. Ive had to bump up my striker spring to get their a few boxes of really old PMC primers that came my way. I gave it a little more oil than normal and seems to be getting better. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. "first thing i would check is your connector tension, if there is too much tension it will restrict slide movement". Welcome to Glocks, is your locking block seated correctly? Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Something he has seen in the field. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. no Go on the back plate do not have one.. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? Did not have any problems before I had this milled. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. Then run it like you sole it and it will work fine. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. UPDATE! This condition would be even worse if I had a round in the chamber and loaded magazine. plunger spring or firing pin spring so i would leave the alone. My friend is having an issue with his 80% glock 19. I check the recoil spring from time to time the first way Vincent mentioned. The trigger bar and connector are polished but no metal reshaped or removed. Remove as little material as necessary while maintaining the proper angle on it (sear face). Thank you for that great info! I couldnt be happier. Polish inside the slide rail use 400 to 600 grit sand paper filed on thr edge of a credit card and full length back and fourth along the entire rail slots and the clean out and try fit on frame, better to repeat often and check for fit than tale too much. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! The slide stops with the top bullet in the magazine stuck against the feed ramp. Sometimes you just need to oil them and rack the slide a few hundred or thousand times to break it in. A forum community dedicated to glock owners and enthusiasts. I have not stripped the slide but I'm sure I could figure it out if the issue is there. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. All Rights Reserved. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. What load you firing? Yes i am. The triggers arent nearly as drop in as theyd like to make them out to be. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Clear editor. The problem was a Ghost firing pin safely spring. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. can your extractor move freely? JavaScript is disabled. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. Eject it. https://www.glockstore.com/Glock-Armorers-Half-Slide-Cover-Plate, AR15 Optics decision/dilemma. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. Got the second trigger for the 34.3, dropped in no problem. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. I dont get it, youve been shooting a G34 for quite some time, then you cant get a Timney trigger to work so youre ready to try a Sig? It may not display this or other websites correctly. Haha. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. Clear editor. buddy19 Lord, make me fast and accurate. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. JavaScript is disabled. I can swap the sli. My brand new Glock 19 Gen4 does the exact thing. Oh, it was like filing. Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Your previous content has been restored. 1. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. My glock 19 doesn't go back into battery until I reset the trigger. I know a few guys who shoot sigs and its starting to feel like Ive been trying to make my gun perform more like theirs. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. It has failed to return fully to battery once but every other time, it's a brief hesitation then it snaps into battery. -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Any Glock armour out there that can give me some advice? Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Nick29 The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. When I got the first one for my 34.4, I had multiple issues that I couldn't resolve, so I got my backup 34.4 dropped that same trigger in and it ran perfectly first time in. When I press the slide release it loads just fine. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. You can get calipers from Harbor freight, they are not the best but have a large read out display and I find them as accurate as Frankfort Arsenal digital calipers,you will use them for many gun related projects. I knew what it felt like from a second 17 I own, so I knew that was the route I wanted to go. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. Nice pull and crisp break. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. In addition, if you just had the slide (and / or frame) refinished, there is an excellent chance you will need to shoot some rounds to get the coatings thinned out in the right spots. If you aren't getting drag marks on the underneath side of the slide from it, I would leave it be, other than giving it and the bar itself a good polishing. Great info! Once I put the stock one back in no problems. Your previous content has been restored. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. I have played with many Glock triggers and trigger parts since then, both Glock and aftermarket selections, looking for that secret sauce. From personal experience I recommend a factory connector. I do not recommend using a dremel on that. Who knows. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 I plan on winning the lottery soon so I'll have much more free time in the future. I'm going to look in to some of your suggestions and, if all else fails, put another few hundred rounds through it and see if it persists. I checked this (recoil spring drops a little) on my Glock. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. Thank you! Powered by Invision Community. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? Lots of creep, but that is by design. are you certain that everything is installed properly? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. So w/o any round the chamber, pull the trigger back and hold it, then ease slide back and look for the slide to raise up some. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. I'm not new to glocks and have done detailed strips before so I don't think it is the recoil spring not seated correctly. I only switched because my Glock trigger could only set off certain primers due to the lightness of the springs I needed to get it to work. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. Your link has been automatically embedded. I would tear it down and put it back together a few times. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. Im thinking the mag springs are hanging up on something. I must thank everyone for the replies, you all are the best. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. I'm pretty sure it actually WAS only fired once before because the copper grease was still very apparent when I field stripped it. I have a brand new Gen4 Glock 17, which the only "upgrade" I have done is change the connector to a Taran Tactical one. Let it forward a little bit and then let go. I bought a Suarez milled RMR cut slide for my Glock 19 Gen 3 and if I pin the trigger after a shot, it almost never goes back into battery, which makes sense, but sometimes when I shoot correctly and don't pin the trigger it still doesn't go back into battery. I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. I recently changed out the connector on a new G19 I picked up and I noticed that if I rode the slide home slowly while doing dry fire practice the gun would FTRTB due to a longer arm on the connector that rides against the cam on the slide. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. with the gun completely empty and the factory connector installed I can still get it to FTRTB by holding it vertically and riding the slide home with the trigger depressed. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. If you see light off-center strikes it may well be. I'm kinda an apartment dweller with more Barbie dolls than tools (they are my daughters. Anyways, I noticed when messing around with it that the slide is not going all the way back into battery when I ride the slide forward while holding the trigger back. I've been running Glock pistols since they came out with the G21 in .45acp over 30 years ago, that's when I sold my Colt 1911 and never looked back. Or you can order them for like 2-3 bucks offline from Midway or Brownells. There's too much risk of changing the angle, removing too much material, and or rounding the edges(which will result in decreasing surface area). When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. it looks like the spring doesn't detend far enough , then doesn't pushes the slide into complete battery. It only hangs up if I hold the trigger back as if shooting off the reset. Powered by Invision Community. This isn't an issue when practicing slow fire but rapid fire would be a problem. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. On a defensive weapon, quite acceptable. Or has it been an issue since purchase? Great info thank you. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. You can post now and register later. I'm in California), but then it stops going forward just short of going into battery. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. I found my recoil springs drops a little as well. Hope yours breaks in and the issue clears itself up. Put ammo in from the same box into my 92A1 and had no issues. Glock 36's historically dislike certain ammo's, you just need to find the ammo it likes. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Knock on wood but I think I may have figured it out with help from many of your suggestions. I guess it's best to keep a couple spare recoil springs for the G26 just in case. It had 2056 through it. If it goes into battery completely then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Another test I've seen done is to load a magazine completely full. Yes, the Glock has been altered from stock. I have Timney triggers in two Glock 17 Gen 4 MOS pistols that I run in USPSA CO. Glock OEM triggers are generally crappy even after polishing, but they are reliable. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. Does anyone have any suggestions? I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Upload or insert images from URL. On a side note, this gun did not want to feed my semiwadcutters at all, and also pinched my pinky a lot. check the recoil spring. Found the culprit. Is this normal with these mods? Just an excuse to try something new. You can post now and register later. I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. Just to make sure that it wasn't something trigger related I threw the old serrated trigger assembly back in and it does the same thing so I put the new smooth one back in. Could be too long and hitting the extractor bar/spring thingy and not letting the extractor get up over the case rim. Riding the slide is not recommended so not letting the slide run forward untouched should make it OK, IMO. Maybe he did something to the slide? I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. BrianEnos.com I will look into it. If it does, you may want to look into a ligher recoil spring kit to continue using your existing loads. I could measure how it was off. Pasted as rich text. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. I had a friend of mine install the 3.5 connector with the NY1 trigger spring on my old Glock 19. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. Its been awhile but isn't that a test on the glock holding the gun upright and dropping the slide with the trigger held? Thanks for the info. You cannot paste images directly. One new winner* is announced every week! 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. Is this how it supposed to function? I noticed this after a cleaning. I put some vibratite on the screw and am going to head to the range to test it in a few minutes.

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