Comes with 1 group photocard and 2 random member photocards out of 8. 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . She was singing song lyrics from Melon (a Spotify-type South Korean streaming website), lyrics that had the n-word in them. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. Watch popular content from the following creators: natalie(@chuusvideogame), matching pfp with @asapminho(@ryyujinnn), Malaiya<3 (@soulspotato__), donnie<3(@twicesring), number one heejin stan(@realchaeyoungpark) . As much as I have enjoyed running this blog, there are lots of aspects of it which have purely been a source of anxiety and distress for me. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. One tweet asked, "What we feeling today -er or -a? Apink made an exciting appearance on the recent July 1 episode of SNL Korea, but one of the show's skits featuring member Bomi has caused a wave of backlash among fans and viewers. However, another fan might choose not to forgive him for it, which is totally up to them, and totally understandable. I included links to a post explaining why Siwons alleged homophobic comment was extremely dubious and likely to be untrue, though I guess I probably shouldnt have included it at all (I assumed people would go to the link). window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. }); Daily persecution? She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . } Nobody is saying you cant like these idols, everybody messes up at some point, but dont call other people sensitive just because you might have a higher tolerance level. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? Threads: 0. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. I messed up, a lot, and I honestly do regret making the post. Hope that all made sense! Feb 22, 2023. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. It arguably began around late 2018 Windflower era, when antis began to change Mamamoo's music video titles to racial slurs and death threats. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. 5) Again, I included the Kangin thing because I have seen a huge amount of fans get upset by it. If you would not be able to handle it being done to you, dont do it to others, no matter how big or famous those other people are. Threads: 200. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . We're celebrities too but we're human first.". Another chose to call out an even older incident, one in which Hwasa used the n-word while covering a Beyonc song. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. Of course I was disappointed in some of the things they've done and said, but we all make mistakes and they've acknowledged them and apologized. My mom would like to know #AskHwasa, is mama africa a good name for you? Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. Mamamoo's "problematic" past (still robot voice, sorry sis) 325,340 views Sep 11, 2018 13K Dislike Share Chaennie Lisoo 38.1K subscribers In this video I take a look at one opinion in. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. Yes I should have included more context. That crosses every sort of line. }); Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. ga('ads.send', { Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. Im simply complying a list of things that could be perceived as offensive or problematic so that fans can decide for themselves. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. i know you deemed your siwon thing heavily unreliable but even the fanvideo is wrong. Non fans for all the questions, suggestions, reviews, anything. if(document.querySelector("#google_image_div")){ Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. I'm gonna keep following them and follow my own judgement. I dont properly feel as though I can talk about in depth because I have limited knowledge (which I probably should have specified in the post) but I didnt just pull it out of my ass, I included it because Id seen people get offended by it (though predominantly by Gain). Im ironically bad at dealing with conflict, which might make some people question why I started this blog (it was actually an accident, long story), but Ive tried not to let it affect my running of this blog. ", HELP THE QUESTIONS FOR #AskHwasa I CANT pic.twitter.com/hfqIr5fn9w, THE TWEETS UNDER THIS HASHTAG ARE RUTHLESS AHAJAKXH #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/gEpnibGF9J, the gates of heaven are not opening for ANY of yall #AskHwasa, Baby Mia Jade Riley: Parents Lani and Tom Riley speak out after dog attack killed their 5-week-old infant, 'We have lots to reveal': Madeleine McCann lookalike Julia Wandelt posts footage of meeting with PI probing claims, Kyle Sambrook: Hiker falls 100ft to death while carrying his dog in one hand through 'appalling' weather, Killer mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from drug withdrawal and had 'worst side effects,' says friend, Bruce Willis's mom Marlene 'not sure if her son still recognizes her' as 'aggressiveness' creeps in. I feel like this sounds insincere but its not, I promise, I wish I had gone about it very differently. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. Hwasa is an idol who isn't afraid to be herself. If we reflect on our own selves, Im sure a lot of us have done some similar things that could be classified as questionable if we were always in the spotlight as idols too. Siwon isnt the only member this has happened to, and I also understand that a lot of the time people take things out of context in order to justify hating on a specific member and its really frustrating. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), }); They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. And despite Hwasa's fans attempting to set the record straight through her own apologies and explanations, the hashtag continued to be used by many to troll the idol. So I decided to forgive them cause myself personally thinks that they tried to show love to Bruno Mars which is apparently one of their fav artist by doing a vcr of their songs but stupidity and very ignorantly decided to dark their skin to match his and his dancers. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. Solar Moonbyul Wheein Hwasa Results are only viewable after voting. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. omg?? Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. As for the Kris thing, Im aware its Heechuls opinion, but considering Kris left for very valid reasons (and was practically being abused by SM, as it seems many of the Chinese members were) I would say that it could be consideredproblematic to call Kris disrespectful for leaving, especially after all the shit he got from fans and the members themselves. One tweet under the #AskHwasa hashtag read, "Where did you get ur African auntie outfit from?? The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. } I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. Solar | Moonbyul | Wheein | Hwasa. But seeing these articles faze me. Hwasa, while covering the track, read the lyrics as is, leading to the gaffe. Our team is real men., Actually, we are all men, real men ah! Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. They make a difference. ), http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117874134598/hi-i-just-wanted-to-comment-on-your-tag-about, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/117835308868/ayabewakasa-one-unsubstantiated-article-that, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/118060768918/about-the-issue-of-siwon-saying-no-to-the-fanboy, http://ourbridgeisforever.tumblr.com/post/119551166438/baekbitchyeol-catchmeinthedrift. Thank you~). With reference to the Baekhyun-autism-comment issue, it has been a topic of much debate as many people have said that the korean word for autistic is similar to the korean word for defeated-i want to clarify that i do not speak korean so i cannot judge this myself-and that it was just a mistranslation. Ive privated the post because it was very poorly made and I acknowledge that, however, some of the criticism Im getting is from 1) people who havent actually read the post and 2) people who are refusing to acknowledge some of the things I did include in it. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. So to me Mamamoo isn't the most problematic groups, they are one of the every few kpop groups that take criticism and acknowledge it and learn from it. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? heechul just wore a scarf on his head - thats not how anyone wears a hijab properly and white women have been doing that since like the 40s. actually dont feel like fighting that person on their response, so im just letting it go. And while her more recent missteps are nowhere near what she has done in the past, they still, nonetheless, fall in the realm of what many consider offensive. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. I'm not dismissing them or overlooking them, but I know that there was no ill intent in what they did and that they're doing their best. It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. It has become commonplace to trash Mamamoo and Hwasa in particular, just another meme or joke to let slide. not excusing it or defending, but Henry was a little boy from Canada, and that kind of fan service is really odd in general to the West, Id hardly call that problematic. . There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. eventAction: 'render' However it did look dumb not going to lie not a good look and hopes she does not it again. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. One user tweeted, "HELP I dont like Hwasa but some of yall going a little too far, some of yall preach mental health but pick and choose who that applies too. 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