R7 Please elaborate! Evidently they talk about a creepy guy following them and what should they do about it on the video. Shocker. If you see something that doesnt look right, Contact Us. Obviously we would have had to rely on other evidence gained, from all sources. I'm wondering if they were lead there to meet a guy they'd been in contact with online, but all did not go as planned. I decided I was going to take the riverbank going back, I didnt. But Durnell found holes in the story, he said, and other officers come back having found ropes and blankets similar to those in which Delphi was found wrapped in at his home. Enough"? I think justice would be to lock him in a room with some of the townspeople and let them at him. so many reddit threads i didn't read all the way through. The window was right next to the door, the only light coming into the room. well, Chadwell is 42 and has been in and out of jail. eta: The blood and tissue under Libby's fingernails might be her own. OP/R21 the thought of there being 40 minutes of audio/video footage is truly gut-wrenching to even imagine. More than two years after the audio clip was released, Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter held a press conference to unveil a new composite sketch of the suspected killer. What was the other one? Links to more Entertainment stories are at the foot of the page. R446, the phone was factory reset 9 days after the murders. Again, jmo. He doesnt have a beer gut, hulking arms, or short sausage legs. I thought the killer was from their small town, and, for some reason, the locals were shielding him. Convened a new task force that had its own bldg and then this. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Investigators worked up a composite sketch of the man in the photo. But still killing two teenage girls who decided at the last minute to take an unadvertised hike? Wasn't the sister was the last person to see them and drove them there? I use WIKI 2 every day and almost forgot how the original Wikipedia looks like. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. In essence, the well has not gone dry.. Isn't part of the id problem a lot of guys look like h? He sat there and waited for his target victim to enter the path when it was empty. click ACCEPT. Murder is horrible enough, but there is something about it being recorded and preserved that makes it profoundly more disturbing to me. My first thought was he is posing over a grave, like The Moors murderers. Police announce charges against Richard Allen in Delphi murder case. Its been months, this guy clearly isnt the killer. I doubt that they were shot to death, though, given that these trails are frequented by pedestrians/hikers fairly regularly, and are adjacent to the main town. i'd like it to be him. a hair, a skin sample from nails, just SOMETHING. People are already calling it out as bullshit. Have they interviewed Pastor Davey? I think this is our guy. If I were to tell you the person I was sitting next to on the bus on the way here, I would probably tell you their nose was small and their eyes were blue. The girls were about 14? I remember this being national news when it happened. Dont remember specs well enough . not sure these girls were even old enough to menstruate. It wasn't too long ago and I wonder if that corresponds with the timing of this revelation, This will not be the guy- he is too fat- the guy in the video is far thinner than his baggy clothes make him look (And clearly has weaponry in his shirt), I agree R145, but apparently there are pics of him from 2017 where he's thinner (haven't seen them yet). Some say that the girls were killed inside a barn on RL's property and then later moved and during "dark hours" after LE had stopped searching. causes.". R391 makes sense too. Not even close. John Terhune/Journal & Courier A composite sketch one of just a couple pictures of the Delphi Murders suspect. While interesting, I found it almost unwatchable due to the poor sound editing. What a fucking monster. The Innocent Project has been successful in overturning some murder convictions, mostly because of new DNA evidence that points away from the defendant. Delphi Bridge murder victims Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, were found to have lost a large amount of blood when discovered dead close to an To me its his hunched back posture that ages him. It was a popular local spot for photographers and nature-watchers and the girls saw that they werent alone. This change could help broaden the search for Abby and Libbys killer. Im guessing it wasnt this guy since its been a while without any news. I went down the Reddit Rabbit hole last night and read that there, but idk if that is accurate. r64, explain. They were reported missing a day earlier shortly after Libby posted a final image to Snapchat of Abby, showing her traversing the tracks of the bridge trail. I think this thread has a link to the helicopter photos. Looking at the guy that was just arrested seems like I am completely wrong. The bridge kid looks like this could be his dad. The cops clearly fucked up the investigation in someway (obtaining evidence through legally inadmissible means). A woman took photos and gave them to LE. Hello and thank you for being a DL contributor. I think bridge guy could be of that build - and I've never bought that he was old. only psychoes believe what he "makes up". This guy walks to fast. Although investigators have never given the exact context to the images or audio taken from the video, they have said they were taken during suspected criminal activity.. Take a look at Stands to reason. He did not elaborate on any details about the investigation into Chadwell. The timing of the girls recording, their death and the finding of their bodies also meant the killer acted quickly which likely means he had a confidence in surroundings. I cant wait for this guy to get caught. Barely over 5ft tall? i know that sounds sounds shit, i don't recognize myself as some sort of a medium. R113 I have read that a tree branch was inserted into Abbys abdomen, but not sure how (as in pressed into her stomach or inserted into her vagina). What really strikes me, though, is the photos from the Facebook account. Although the audio may appear to be a different voice, Indiana State Police were clear when they released it that the extended clip was all the same person. A brief audio clip, which police have always said was just a small clip of what they have from Libbys phone, was released on Feb. 22, 2017. Its only thread that does that, that Ive ever experienced on this site - ever. Yeah..:I wondered because it sounds like from her posts that he fooled them into thinking he was law enforcement. I finally turned on my CC and muted the tv. They have video, audio, and they should have dna of the killer, yet this case has been unsolved for nearly three years. Don't have a link, sorry, but a story at the Daily Mail today says he's been beaten up by the other inmates at the prison he's in. R14 During one of the press conferences a couple of years ago, the police stated that they had someone in mind and they were probably watching the press conference at that moment, they went onto say that the culprit would slip up and they had almost certainly told someone something about the murders and that person would come forward eventually. i would think there would be some DNA or something from crime scene. Also, why does the recording stop where it does? Abby's mother said that Abby would have put on makeup and done her hair if she were planning to meet a boy at the bridge that day. There is a text exchange between 2 people. Id love to have seen the sheriff photographed in the same position as the man in the photograph on the bridge and see if the images aligned. There is a debate about when the guy got the tattoo and whether the tattoo is actually of the guy's late mother or Linda Blair's face from the Exorcist. He does say, in the 2020 HLN podcast, that signatures are there. One thing Leigh Kerr said that makes sense - he was watching them through binoculars. R143, I dont have HLN. I mentioned it on that thread. I have read that he planned to take them somewhere but they broke and ran at some point and he was furious and then killed them quickly but not the way he fantasized (taking them somewhere and keeping them alive for a while first). I thought they had a suspect. I'm not yet convinced, he does fit the sketch, he is a real creep but that still doesn't prove he did it. The cops have nothing to go on and they're desperate for a suspect. Why have you never released the FBIs suspect profile to the public? I thought they had brought in a suspect a few months after the killings who seemed like the likely perp? [quote] Who the hell would walk that bridge, much less allow kids to walk on it alone? I have always thought that the girls were catfished. R286 How did they say that? Why were they killed if not for sex? Seems now its all about standard Jesus-hollering Christian community dudes under suspicion. Abby responds, "Hmmm." R50 I saw those images but cant make them out. The walkway they crossed was pretty damaged and he must have had prior experience of walking it, as he crossed it pretty quickly. If someone has knowledge of nonpublic information about the cause of death, they probably did it or know who did. It may help to prevent action against false leads/confessions and may help to build the case as it would be very suspicious for an innocent person not connected to the crime to know those details. Please let there be some DNA evidence. The Levi styled cut of his jeans and the Members Only aesthetic of the jacket suggest someone stuck in the styles of their youth. . They also say they now believe that the second sketch is a more accurate depiction of the suspect, although the actual suspect may likely be a mix between both sketches. My old and new rabbit holes were on the Beeks, Pat and Angel Br@wn and their little pickup, then Micah H, then pastor JDW. The guy behind Anthony schotz profile was in communication with Libby all weekend long. We have estimated Delphi Lawrence's net worth, money, salary, income, and assets. She was nominated for a 1974 Joseph Jefferson Award for Best Actress in a Principal Role for her performance in "Separate Tables", at the Ivanhoe Theatre in Chicago, Illinois. [quote] I wont link cuz DL doesnt like the Mail, We don't like when people start threads with a daily mail link. If they know who it is, that name would get out. One girl was just in the wrong place, wrong time. Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. The sketch of the sole suspect remained posted in the town years on, as authorities have released few Delphi murders updates. Do you recognize the mannerisms as being someone that you might know?. As Sheriff, the utmost importance, in my opinion, is the integrity of the investigation. The poster who kept saying they wouldnt be tipped off by police is ridiculous and has been proven wrong. Later, the police reveal she also filmed the approach of their killer, as well as recorded him giving the chilling command, Guys.down the hill. There is more audio and video, but law enforcement has not released it. but since i have heard about this, there is a lower leg wound that won't go away. I still don't understand how or why they complied with this guy's orders unless he had a weapon. Could LE find the ISP of the profile's creator? Brrrr. Who knows if thats true. But now I just dont know what to think. A. They have loud piano music drowning out the grandmother right now. [quote] the tattoo dates to before the murders, there's a photo of him playing with a puppy in 2016 where he has the tat. I saw the helicopter photos but it didnt look like anything to me. These are things that I can see but we all get our own impressions. If the pos wasn't in jail I would think you were him. His eyes are chilling. I hope Im wrong and this is the guy. And its having one individual with the strength to say that was my brother, thats my dad, or thats my cousin, thats my neighbor, my co-worker. Tattoo could represent the killer's type of victim. Indiana State Police Sgt. all throughout this investigation, there is a pose feature. The process is always working, comparing tips received about the Delphi murders with hundreds of other cases and tips. That cant be common. The Story Of The Unsolved Delphi Murders And The Chilling Video Evidence Left Behind. To report a factual error in any of the posts on FilmiFeed.com, please use this form. Nations once lived in Indiana and faced charges in September 2017 for threatening people with a hatchet on a rural trail in Colorado. Birthday: March 23, 1926 Date of Death: I hope this is the guy so there can be closure. There is a photo on the internet of Libby in her casket. It hasnt had a train on it since 1929," Carter said during a press conference on April 22, 2019. R252 no, there is more audio but law enforcement doesnt think releasing it will help. Also, I think it was unlikely an online correspondent because couldnt he be traced? For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? I just cannot imagine a community knowing and someone not taking matters into their hands if law enforcement wont. Just happens he has a dog that he's trained to chase cats or has a dog period? Or at the very least, they know because of how different you are since the murders," he said. As reconstructed by the investigators, the Connecticut murderer identified the trail and discovered the obscure parking lot. When DN was temporarily a suspect he'd gone after someone with a hatchet or ax right? R481 But if investigators only could tie the father-to-be to the fetus of one of the girls but not place him at the murders, they wouldn't arrest him until they had evidence that links him to the crime. Have they consulted with the local oracle? The story in the video (Libertys father fingered two meth dealers and this was retribution) makes more sense.and would account for the positioning of the bodies (sexual/religious) as a huge fuck you to the father and the community as a whole. I had doubts before but no longer after learning more about that terrain. Klein, who is currently in police custody, was charged in August 2020 with 30 felonies, including child exploitation, possession of child pornography, obstruction of justice, and synthetic identity deception. If they don't have solid DNA evidence or similar which I'm assuming they don't, given that they can't rule this guy in or out, it could be very hard to prove who killed the girls. Everything is a guess. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. R203 I saw that too, BUT he isnt the only person who suspects this dude. Just that I assume he was some sort of transient. Maybe this is the only thing he says without their voices mixed in. Or something like that. 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As of February, Leazenby said, investigators have received more than 50,000 tips. But Leigh Kerr may also be a frustrated insider/outsider LE. Paul Holes, the retired homicide and cold case investigator who helped bring about an arrest in the Golden State Killer case, has also spoken extensively on the issue, offering his own theories for why police have been stingy with information, including the Delphi murders autopsy report. Holy crap, now that I see the suspect, I can see how someone could have come up with both sketches. However, we do not know when the inquiry was made about the Toyota nor if it was even near Delphi. The public has been given two sketches, is the thought there is more than one person involved or is the second sketch the suspected killer? Mere minutes saved her, poor child. Right jacket pocket. A grease fire is too good for him. We recommend you to check the complete list of Famous People born on 23 March. A. Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. The Websleuther who dug up the scanner traffic wrote: State Police out of Lafayette have an 8-county coverage area - including in and around Monticello. Years ago I went down the Beeks rabbit hole and crawled out concluding the Beeks have nothing to do with this. I stopped following this case. HLN in 2020 released the immensely popular Down the Hill podcast, named after the suspects cryptic words in the audio clip taken from Libbys phone. It could be a stun gun? The video shows the suspect walking along the bridge behind Libby and Abby. Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. The enforcer would come in, commit the crime, cover it up with the second child's murder, and leave the area. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. And I guess not knowing the cause of death and WHY he did this makes it even more disturbing. Kind of odd that hed include the detail that he didnt know who would have called in a tip about him. Then why haven't they identified him? Also, this trail has spotty cell tower reception. Provided Photo One of the cellphone pictures from the Delphi murders depicts the suspect walking down the railroad bridge toward Abby Williams and Libby German. A poster on Reddit works at an Indiana auto plant and tipped a guy who worked at the plant. Seems old enough. The blogs "paperblog" and "truthtellersweb" have interesting stuff to read. That doesnt mean he didnt know their parents or someone close to them someone he may have wanted to pay back. God, he just looks too much like the sketch. The glamorous blonde star shot to fame in 1982 when she starred in Lloyd Webber's hit musical Evita, taking over from Elaine Page. I thought I had accidentally hit the wrong setting on my surround sound tuner because the music was blaring and I couldn't hear the people speaking. R42 Feb 15 is a Monday, not Saturday, apologies (again). HLN is airing a 2-night documentary based on the hit podcast, Feb 14 & 15. Whats with all the secrecy from the cops? Like I said above, the girls would have been heard screaming if they were killed at 3 pm. R349 Not according to Chadwell's brother in the local news clip.I feel like the tattoo could be any of the 3 females mentioned - Libby, Regan in The Exorcist, or his dead mother. I think theres one piece. Q. He was asked a number of questions from readers of local newspaper The Carroll County Comet, but had to decline many of them for much the same reasons Paul Holes indicated. Also, if you listen closely to the recording, it sounds like you hear the Guys and then one of the girls yelling something. If they did they wouldn't be in business long. That's preposterous. Why have no other photos from Libbys phone been released to the public? Carter also said because they know where the man was walking on the bridge his walk is not natural because of the spacing between the ties and the deterioration in that area of the bridge. Ive always thought it was some rando lucky-psycho that day. (this is only my opinion and many disagree). We were told that the guy probably looks younger than he is. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. A. for your pointless bitchery needs. There's been a lot of criticism of the police fumbling and taking forever. So, how much is Delphi Lawrence worth at the age of 70 years old? I am guessing they were staged Pieta-like. I hope they arrest him, such senseless loss of life. BTW, motiveless (or seemingly motiveless) killings by strangers have always been harder to solve than ones committed by someone the victim knows. Maybe the killer used sticks to make crosses near the girls' bodies. As described in the news stories about his trial by the late Daily Local reporter and editor Shirley McCauley, the case against Garnett was largely circumstantial. HLN had a 5-year anniversary show on Saturday night. No. It was noted that the new recording with the additional of guys may have been spliced - iow, it may not have been part of the order to go down the hill, but part of a later utterance. The trial, in which the prosecution sought the death penalty against the then 19-year-old Garnett, lasted from Monday through Saturday night, and was featured on the front page of the Daily Local News each day. What I dont get is where was the phone? He targeted only one of them, imo. Chadwell is such a great suspect, I bet it's him. Also, highly probable phone got bumped during violence that caused it to stop recording. When you're shown information that contradicts whatever rumor it is you want to believe, you get huffy about it. Like Bundy fantasized and preyed on young thin college women with long brunette hair. The cause of death for the girls has never been released. State police served a search warrant at a nearby property, but no arrests were made. She sent the photo to LE. He didn't, the factory reset he did on his Samsung Galaxy was 9 days later, as the article says. Period. Evidently even prisoners loathe child rapists/killers and they are (or were) called short eyes. The killer deserves his fate and more. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Kingdom. Some say that the recording contains much more footage of the killer but the parts with him in it are to graphic and disturbing to show and don't want to upset the families, and others say that what is out there is all they have off the killer but don't want the killer to know that's how little footage they have of him. Enforcement has not released it behind Anthony schotz profile was in communication Libby! 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