The only thing that being a non captive, is that you have no loyalty to any company. You are told you are a bussines owener. You are forced to do this because PFS would have a fit and send their lawyers on you because of the non-compete clause you signed. . And fixed ones are only good for lump sums that you do not want to beat inflation not just keep up with it. I like options. (Im just fueling the fire). There are people out there that are thrown out of Primerica. Just like using Life insurance as a savings/investment tool. Is there value in the partial guarantee? 2600/100.000= .26 or 26%. If I remember right, He is a Professional. Who is attacking who. Tom this was goin a bit too far. product. In fact, I will encourage them to do so. Since you do not know this makes me suspect that you have not investigated the companies your sell. For all stock lovers. I can apprceciate quality over cost. You seem to be taking this personal. Im finally biting the bullet taking my 20% loss over 6 years and paying my outrageous redemption fees and going to find a reputable broker who is going to sell me overpriced insurance $80.00 a month for a $400,000.00 life insurance policy that I got 6 years ago (when I was 24) and in great health. Williams was sold once before and stock went through the roof. Is it that they are eating your lunch? In fact, I have stated that I have never sold nor, nor has anyone in my agency (I have 35 life-licensed reps). AIG you need to prove terminal illness within 12 months. I am a client with more knowledge than some ex-agents and people who think they know more because they were approached. Michael Thomas @ 2:22 pm How many Financial advisers would keep thier job if they suggested that. Given the information any PFS agent who looks at it with a clear mind can make a decsion thats in their best interest. I told them and they seemed very angered about another rep trying to recruit me, statint that their system was much better than the other RVP. Something to consider is to get big in PFS is to recruit, recruit and recruit. James @ 12:42 pm WebPrimerica's insurance typically costs more than comparable financial products, does not have conversion options, and only applies to low-risk individuals. Now are there companies out there that now sell only term yes. Plus all the benefits of opening a business, with its write offs. But let us see if you will answer these questions so we can gauge your honesty or deception: Did you sell any Adustable rate mortgages? When I did my last policy comparison, the competition was coming in a hair cheaper. Itll cost you around $100 just to sign up for Primerica in the first place. Lets talk about price again. lack of loyalty is the biggest deal killer. Im not ashamed of going after small sales. Since your lack of knowledge is evident here, How are we to trust your memory. I have been working for Primerica part time for the past couple of months and I am very happy. they are licensed agents. I have studied the insurance business and found that the car salespeople are angels compared to you guys. . Could it be you are lacking the value they deserve. I work for a large commercial building repairing a/c equipment. Michael, I find it incredibly hard to believe that after 17 years in PFS you can say with a straight face that your highest income attained has anything to do with the companys system or its products. I would trade 5 to 6 sales to get 50 to 60 warm qualified leads. Let me ask you why should I have to say no thank you? They also have someone that is looking over their work. I sure hope your clients see this and learn of your motivation. How many (average) americans have $25k to invest or can afford to pay you/reputable companies 1500.00-2,500.00 or more for your services. It is a level playing feild. Most Christians would not. Oh the person who is getting your override. I am curious, do you think that the value you get from McDonalds is equal to the Value you get at Black Angus? Here is why I use a person who is not in it for the money. ( They did this because that way Primerica, and Citi do not have to take the financial risk of doing the insurance, but still gets the best deal for their clients. So Primerica not special with that. _____________________________. It is a pyramid with all the money going to the top. I consider myself to be an open-minded person, so I dont mind meeting with the recruiters and really learning what the company is all about. They help me in all ways. sure you may lose some money in life insurance sales. I guess you never really investigated this at all. a) I would like to see where that stat is. You do not ahve any income. The dream is to not need your insurance. Its easy. Remind me of a saying You know how you know when a salesperson, or Michael is lying? That was my Primerica experience. Anybody have any knowledge of the Utah seizure? IT is typical that you attack this way since you cant win across the kitchen table. You are the one who does not get it. One can only hope you keep the level of intellectual conversation. (iii) If you have attended a life prelicensing class, you will not be entitled to any portion of your IBA fee. If you want to build wealth, you need to stay with a variable. When he tries to call these clients, lawyers send a letter saying to stop, or you will be sued. And you can chose. When I first was being recruited by Primerica, I was led to believe that I was an owner of my own business. I use the comparison of the BMW and Yugo to the products that have been pushed here. What a terrible and high crime it is to work peoples warm market. No, they use their house as a piggy bank, and then whine when they run out of equity. Now they have a yard sale every weekend to try and help out. Would you only purchase one brand car knowing that there is a better products that there? Limiting the amount is a prudent business decision since they are limiting their liability. Again you prove your lack of knowledge. -. People are so quick to knock MLM toopersonally I think its a great thing. He rumbles, rambles, rants. Do you have a mental problem? So it cost you, the independent, over $2000 to get the same things it cost the Priemrica (spelling) agent, $99. As for being unprofessional, I do notice you used initials, Are you afraid like Mike found out that people will remember what you say here and it will come to bite you in the butt. Well we revert to thinking people who say anything against the Primerica concepts or business model are exclusive whole life producers again. The pay out is less than 1% of 1%. I have to admit that the above is a very succinct and accurate statement. Recruit massive amounts of people. i did not like the entire presentation for primerica, but not everyone feels the same about it. 4. It is listed on http://www.term4sale.com (cut and paste) Conversion Period Many term policies offer the ability to exchange the term policy for a whole life policy without having to again medically qualify. Sales person cares really about themselves. But then again not all companies are the same. If you work you get paid. More power to you honestly. Hey wait a gosh darn minute Micheal, Atta boy! Why would anyone have such interest in this other than being contracted with Primerica. So why are you selling this to the wrong person. As for your PFS agent who contacts you every 6 months, next time he/she contacts you ask them to research Life Settlements and inform you on the Pros and cons, and if there is a difference between a policy that can convert to a permanent product and their term policy if a Life Settlement was a consideration. I am sure many of you could relate who have families and friends who joined. Wow, sounds like you have the best way to handle insurance sales. 4. I dont like it and feel like it is a scam! Primerica is the right company for the right person. I dont think that the long term potential verses the up front committments can be matched anywhere. . Theres no requirement to purchase Primerica products..Let the spin begin. So one office out of hundreds is caught making a mistake. Only salemen has that train of thought. Third, you need support. I mean no agent can do that. I hear there are federal laws that make the owners of the boards responsible for anything posted on the internet. Hand cuffing you to fully help your client. I later studied for and passed the 6 and 63. But let go through your post and correct each one of them. Is it a scam company. They can either choose the mission or the commission. Remember what your parents said, you are who your friends that you keep nIt is is even better with the companies you chose to keep when you are an independent. Company B: $590 anuually Billionaire. But then again you knew this. Micheal saying it is 199 not 99 and does not cover the extra licenses. Unless he has a third arm or something like that, it sounds to me like you have no one but yourself to thank for your income. To give you a better idea of the size and how these college divisions compare, about 187,000 student-athletes compete at the Division 1 level. -, so yep.. that regional or rvp gets all that business and u thought u owned a business uh no but ur are a 1099 employee, This is an oxymoron. And another reason is because companies that sell that way normally do not want to provide an education or service to the client. The reason I sale insurance is because I believe in my product, I believe in my carriers, and I believe that I am doing the right thing for my clients. Ok money is not the only reason people get divorced have you ever watched Cheaters? Now you might want to look up this quote from Andrew Carnegie. You remember about how the companies will call and try to convert. WebPrimerica markets financial products and services from some of the world's more recognizable companies. Again Primerica didn t sell me on price, they showed me how Cash Value was a lie. _________. If Primerica didnt work for you, then go elsewhere, but dont discourage someone else who is excited about getting involved from doing ityou may be talking the next PFS SNSD out of getting there. Do not follow the people here but make an informed decision. (5% chance there.) Because its terrible to try to sell your food to your friends and family. -. __________________________________________________, Tom says: Giving up Legs, Training Sales: Let me ask you a simple question. They talk about business theory and the law. So let me say this again. It basically read Thank you for your time at PFS. People earn EXACTLY what theyre worth in Primerica, like it or not. He must have some product that he has investigated that he has some great deal on. So if you want to know the facts ask the right people. If you have any questions you can email me at investinginfamilies[at]yahoo.com. Either way they are not good companies. From what I remember Primericas Legal Plan cost $25.00 a month. Now the average term policy is kept for 7 to 10 years to possible 12 years. Last but for sure not least, critic me on some of my God comments, if you know of Him. The client can always say NO Thank YOU. You said 99% of the time you sell good policies. It is less expensive and usually is the better deal. Do you have your mortgage certification? Life insurance is not supposed to be used for health issues, but replacing the income. Primericas term It is only good for estates that has to worry about estate taxes. At least thats what the trainer said. Value. Do you think he wants to ahve call back monthly or quarterly just to get the sales pitch on something that he does not want. product. Sneaky things agents will do to cheat, lie and steal from their clients. Sometimes people later in life develope health issues or life has just thrown them a curve.. **Melody please read some of the previous post. It si sold to your client by a cash value company that will call and harass their client to convert. Did you know in A.L. I really must apologize, now that was an example of being unprofessional. Something I read about Opinions. Since it seems that this person is a competitor, it does nto suprise me the salm job he is trying. To protect this investment, and to protect Primerica agents If you were an agent knowing what you know now, could you with a good conscience hand a beneficiary a check for $250,000 know they could have been getting $325,000 if you just shared some information with them? I do understand that someoen with a limit amount of products would think that is all Primerica has, but they do train on Loans, Securities. I wont even attempt to comment on your race analogy. Now you may have only been there a little while, and never saw anyone that has gotten in trouble but I have seen several agents get reprimands for playing a battle of words. That was an honor. And then you can invest the difference in a mutual fund and have college for the kids. I am reading this 12 years after you wrote your response. If most of the middle class keep doing what they doing now then the whole North American continent will collapse in 20 to 30 years from now and it will make Russia look like a picnic. Let me just say this. Citigroup Reaches Agreement, in Principle, to Settle Certain Auction-Rate Securities Claims The amounts depend from 50K-100K. Proteins have four levels of organization. Annual Reviews of my position. I am curious, how many middle american families are those? As I posted above, Micheal word cannot be trusted. SM. IN my business we sign a non-compete clause. . I could go on for days about the positive things that this company does. Except for Primerica. We can all do it and if I can save the client $30 a month on life insurance costs then that is an extra $30 I can put away for their retirement. Best of luck to you. When posters make statements about some of the products or part of the agent agreement why are there never any reason as to why or how it benefits the agent who is an independent contractor? And lastly how about those imploding policies? , Its has better ratings (AM Best, Moody, S&P): You cannot lose. Now money is not the only cost. Sounds like your friend got some bad advice on how to set it up. Who is the person posting? Then theres the issues of a court ordered insurance policy. I dont know Michael, but I know the difference between being captive and independent. Some companies dont want impaired business. I have the ability to offer more than just life products. And this is why ROP was created. Cash Valve is the insurance companies money. Remember you are selling insurance as a way to save money, or to have an instant estate. If you cant back up your post with facts then get off the ROP kick. Are they self insured like a governmental agency? Sure my RVP pays something but he doesnt charge me a cover fee to sit in his office and watch also. Anyone in sales, is usually captive. And then they will go after your family. So if you sell a CHEAP product, its exactly that, a CHEAP product. Its like a saving plan, when you get older you can at the end of that term you simply invest it into an annuity, IRA or whatever. 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